tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post6861816693567804384..comments2024-03-25T22:06:48.964-04:00Comments on The Zombie Knight Saga: Page 1062 -- CXXI.George M. Frosthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02775956087855415064noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-34143638051888761902015-07-23T17:57:15.000-04:002015-07-23T17:57:15.000-04:00Well, I'm having trouble with the lack of voca...Well, I'm having trouble with the lack of vocals though... I haven't got the faintest idea how to chain the letters "wzr" without breaking my tongue.<br />https://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/wzrost<br /><br />Sounds kind of like "viz(e)rost" to me.<br /><br /><br />You are right about moc.<br />https://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/moc<br />See IPA and example (direct link https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Pl-moc.ogg )<br />I wonder if Mr Frost speaks Polish or just used the magic of google fu.Ankounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-72119587667134870372015-07-21T22:04:30.391-04:002015-07-21T22:04:30.391-04:00I think "Vzrost". I know Polish pronounc...I think "Vzrost". I know Polish pronounces Ws as Vs and Cs as Ss, I pretty sure there's at least one more but I don't think it applies to this word. My knowledge of Polish pronunciation comes pretty much exclusively for the bits of it in the Iron Druid Chronicles.Lord Ericnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-58106618371077945882015-07-21T21:54:15.686-04:002015-07-21T21:54:15.686-04:00Any idea how to pronounce it?Any idea how to pronounce it?Ankounoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-67333327790244688422015-07-21T16:10:16.241-04:002015-07-21T16:10:16.241-04:00Hmm.Hmm.Blaednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-69024991500483048642015-07-21T13:08:48.849-04:002015-07-21T13:08:48.849-04:00I can't seem to find it, sorry. I might have j...I can't seem to find it, sorry. I might have just inferred from Dimas's behavior in it and the fact that the name translates to "master power".Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-44128488805085049762015-07-21T08:15:27.269-04:002015-07-21T08:15:27.269-04:00I've already explained the thought of pan-rozu...I've already explained the thought of pan-rozum being level 2 more than once, as have others. I see no reason to further repeat myself when you haven't refuted the explanation. <br /><br />Here, unlike with the rozum=level 2 state thought, we have nothing to support this idea. You say you know pan-moc is more powerful than a servant's normal state. In that case, would you also say wrozt is more powerful than a normal state, even though what's been said about it doesn't show combat capabilities?<br /><br />Mind you, the question is not whether it powerful, the question is whether it's powerful <i>enough</i> to have gotten Harper out of that predicament. I'm inclined say no, simply because the story had Harper not use it. However, again, nothing is known about the state. Even theories can't be made up about it. The only time we know of a servant using pan-moc was Dimas against the Blackburns. And guess what? He didn't display any changes. All his feats in that fight were also things he'd pulled off before.Blaednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-8773944175729716022015-07-21T07:44:51.057-04:002015-07-21T07:44:51.057-04:00Well, I don't know anything about pan-moc, but...Well, I don't know anything about pan-moc, but what I know is that it's more powerful than a normal power of a servant, and weren't you and some of the others here don't know too, whether pan-rozum was the 2nd level of pan-mode?<br />All it says was that it's the hardest to use, and any user can use it, too.<br />It doesn't say anything about it being a level above the three.Vincent Atd[perspherspley]noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-88187353680540508832015-07-20T21:16:33.890-04:002015-07-20T21:16:33.890-04:00On what page was the details of pan-moc revealed? ...On what page was the details of pan-moc revealed? Blaednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-52447440090108676282015-07-20T21:13:48.837-04:002015-07-20T21:13:48.837-04:00Wzrost. Polish for "growth."Wzrost. Polish for "growth."Lord Ericnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-47983984618784568672015-07-20T21:01:29.341-04:002015-07-20T21:01:29.341-04:00The thing was that Pan-moc only increases power, a...The thing was that Pan-moc only increases power, and they had already demonstrated a way to deal with more power than they had. By using light strikes, he was able to bring in something they didn't know how to deal with, guaranteed to end the fight before they figured it out.Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-2479542465918338212015-07-20T20:57:33.366-04:002015-07-20T20:57:33.366-04:00Besides, they were more worried about being notice...Besides, they were more worried about being noticed by hearing than by whatever the hell Em was using to spot them.Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-80517767920157146452015-07-20T20:55:42.323-04:002015-07-20T20:55:42.323-04:001st level are the ability based states, Moc, Forma...1st level are the ability based states, Moc, Forma and Zwrozt (Or however its spelled). 2nd level is Pan-Rozum, which is by far the hardest to use.Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-80648553932469348862015-07-20T20:53:45.020-04:002015-07-20T20:53:45.020-04:00To be semi-exact, 3 to 4 times older and proportio...To be semi-exact, 3 to 4 times older and proportionally stronger.Stevenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-80592791561934274372015-07-20T14:19:00.320-04:002015-07-20T14:19:00.320-04:00It's here I'll reiterate, "he was out...It's here I'll reiterate, "he was outnumbered, disabled, and had enemies with a counter-ability and Destruction." To ignore this is to ignore the very reason he needed to use a hyper state.Blaednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-1077349797895576822015-07-20T13:51:33.204-04:002015-07-20T13:51:33.204-04:00I'm just saying it because even without using ...I'm just saying it because even without using the pan-mode he could still beat out the shit of all those servants, the reason he couldn't because of the Queen, he's worrying about her.Vincent Atd[perspherspley]noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-40313360697599129692015-07-20T09:16:07.568-04:002015-07-20T09:16:07.568-04:00I don't know what it can do to when Harper use...I don't know what it can do to when Harper use it, but I'm pretty sure it would be easier to control than pan-rozum, and more powerful than his enemies during those times.Vincent Atd[perspherspley]noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-59948617111659240722015-07-19T21:12:31.165-04:002015-07-19T21:12:31.165-04:00"Unconsciousness is just sleeping with convic..."Unconsciousness is just sleeping with conviction"Luckynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-88996795709353513642015-07-19T06:21:08.457-04:002015-07-19T06:21:08.457-04:00I remember Harper being the strongest servant duri...I remember Harper being the strongest servant during those fight, so I think even if he use the pan-moc he could still kill his enemies, without going amok and attacking your allies.Vincent Atd[perspherspley]noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-46359775002476656912015-07-18T20:41:00.906-04:002015-07-18T20:41:00.906-04:00Again, we don't know the benfits of pan-moc ar...Again, we don't know the benfits of pan-moc are, but there must be a reason the most powerful servants we've seen choose to use pan-rozum than the simpler hyper states.Blaednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-66902508653289370652015-07-18T18:51:26.103-04:002015-07-18T18:51:26.103-04:00Oh, he's a pan-moc user, and too bad he though...Oh, he's a pan-moc user, and too bad he thought of using the double-edged sword rather than go with the safest way.Vincent Atd[perspherspley]noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-65293077791402852112015-07-18T16:16:14.239-04:002015-07-18T16:16:14.239-04:00My condolences...My condolences...Blaednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-42623873002540388062015-07-18T08:33:07.921-04:002015-07-18T08:33:07.921-04:00I'd wondered this a couple times. Harper most...I'd wondered this a couple times. Harper most likely can use forma, but I dont think it would have saved him. He was outnumbered, disabled, and had enemies with a counter-ability and destruction. He needed pure offensive power right there.Blaednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-33763980129661244652015-07-18T08:33:00.616-04:002015-07-18T08:33:00.616-04:00Thinking of pan-rozum as being above the others is...Thinking of pan-rozum as being above the others is supported by the story. Every high to top tier servant we've seen has only used rozum. We've only seen moc and forma used by younger (but still skilled) ones. It's quite heavily implied that a servant would first learn one of the easier pans, and then move on to rozum. When we say "second level," we only mean it's the state that normally (unless corrected by the story) after the others. Would the second level of a video game not come after the first and be more difficult? It's the same idea.Blaednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-65990450553242753752015-07-18T07:20:22.158-04:002015-07-18T07:20:22.158-04:00By the way, Harper can use pan-forma, right?
I won...By the way, Harper can use pan-forma, right?<br />I wonder why he didn't use it back then. It would be easier to control it than pan-rozum.Vincent Atd[perspherspley]noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3731978491355560966.post-21896876456844090252015-07-18T06:23:51.619-04:002015-07-18T06:23:51.619-04:00Ah... so that's why I didn't read anything...Ah... so that's why I didn't read anything about rozum being a level above the three, since it just said that it's the hardest and it can be use by all kind of users, but it doesn't say about anything it being the level 2 of pan-mode.Vincent Atd[perspherspley]noreply@blogger.com